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John Jay Article

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Hey, I don't know how to leave a signature so sorry about that but saw your edit. Those were college majors (have provided a link to the correct source), I don't know if it's against WP policy to list the majors the college offers (if it does, please feel free to let me know or undo it and I apologize) but wanted to give you the heads up. Anyway, it is dedicated to Criminal Justice, hence the college's name (John Jay College of Criminal Justice). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.108.33 (talk • contribs) 22:16, November 4, 2021 (UTC)

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Hi there. I know you are very good with university articles and academic BLPs. Would you mind looking at this editor. I see articles created about fairly non-notable professors and non-notable university programs. I already tagged this editor--who edits the same articles. I'd appreciate your opinion. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 10:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And here, so crestfallen by User:TooManyFingers good advice. Why so much drama? Magnolia677 (talk) 11:00, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome to (politely!) ask them if they have a connection to a subject but I'm not seeing anything that is very concerning in their editing. I do plan to nominate Program in Ecology, Evolution, and Behavior, Michigan State University for deletion so we'll see how that goes. ElKevbo (talk) 14:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 17:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Texas Colleges and Universities

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Hi @ElKevbo - QQ: Why remove the bolding of the school names? This is the styling design I'm implementing which is used by other State listings (e.g. California).

Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TAMUH (talk • contribs) 20:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't align with how I understand our Manual of Style's section about bold typeface.
In articles about colleges and universities, previous names of an institution are often bolded the first time they appear in the article and to the best of my knowledge that should only be happening because those old names are redirects to the current article. That - bolding the target of a redirect - is one of the accepted uses of bold typeface. I confess that I rarely if ever check to see if those redirects actually exist - it's really low on my personal to-do list! :) ElKevbo (talk) 21:24, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Understood RE: style manual. Thanks! TAMUH (talk) 21:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to ask others - the Talk page of MOS:BOLD may be ideal. My understanding may be mistaken. ElKevbo (talk) 22:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Freed-Hardeman University

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Thanks for your feedback on the edit! I wanted to share why I think it should stay.

The letter from the university clearly states its beliefs and values, which is important for understanding its conservative stance. Plus, being a Church of Christ university, I think that alone should indicate its ideological position.

I get that firsthand sources can sometimes be viewed as biased, so I'm also looking for additional sources that touch on this. If you have any suggestions, I’d love to hear them!

Thanks for considering my points! Jdawg8677 (talk) 02:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look at how this is handled at Hillsdale College - that college is explicitly labeled as "conservative" in the lede and there has been a lot of discussion in the article's Talk page and edit history over that label. In general, editors usually insist on really high quality sources for that kind of label in the lede sentence of an article. ElKevbo (talk) 10:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. So editors would prefer journalists to define conservatism rather than the school itself.
I appreciate the insight. Thank you. Jdawg8677 (talk) 15:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Colby College library

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Hello,

You have now removed my edit about the Olin Science Library being repurposed two times. The library has literally been non-existent for two years. There are no references saying that it no longer exists because nobody wrote about it. But given that I see it 5 days I week I can assure you that it is no longer there. The closest "reference" that I can find is the absence of it on the Colby Libraries page: https://libraries.colby.edu/about/ It is important that people know the library no longer exists, but what do you do in this case? 108.183.178.64 (talk) 03:14, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the typical approach is to simply remove it from the article. We can't say that it was closed and some other thing was added in its place without a source. But if it's no longer included in a source that's already referenced (or can be easily added) then we can just omit it. ElKevbo (talk) 10:22, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @ElKevbo. That makes a good deal of sense, but I suppose that I also think that it's important for people searching for the library and people learning about the libraries to know that there was indeed a science library that used to exist, but it no longer does. It's relevant and informative history. If we just remove it, it's like the science library never existed. That means, for instance, when people read about the science library at Colby on the Olin Foundation Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._W._Olin_Foundation), they will see that it existed, but then there is no mention of it on Colby's page. People will likely see references to the library elsewhere beyond Wiki and will notice the discrepancy of some places referring to it, but it being missing from Colby's Wiki.
I get your point about what it was repurposed into, but I still feel that it is relevant information since Colby has been all over all the news (e.g., NYT, NPR) about the AI and entrepreneurship initiatives. I don't have as strong as an argument for it, other than it is relevant information contemporarily for those learning about the college, but will likely be less relevant over time, like lots of other information that is on Wiki.
To those ends, I think I made a compelling argument to include that the science library used to exist and no longer does and what took the library's place. Thank you. 108.183.178.64 (talk) 17:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) How sure are you that no one wrote about the library being repurposed? I'm going to guess that if we dig deep enough, there's probably some announcement about it somewhere. Even if it's from a not-normally-reliable source such as a Facebook post from Colby's library account, under WP:ABOUTSELF we could use it. Sdkb talk 18:02, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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